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    So here is my little bit of feedback.

    It seems like there are topics for everything but core values under the food factor area in this forum. It would be great if we had a topic dedicated to core values instead of the threads getting mixed up under miscellaneous, etc.
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    Carla, there were have to be a consensus on what Core Values really meant. To me, CORE VALUES is the glue that holds things together. But the core values challenges/activities can be very distant to anything related directly to FLL. Core Values is just a share sense of a journey a team takes together. If that journey involves research, it should be shared there. If it's robotics, then we can discuss it there. This can be the place for everything else related to Core Values.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by RvRDilemma View Post
      Carla, there were have to be a consensus on what Core Values really meant.
      I guess I was thinking of it from a perspective of someone involved in pilot program for core values where we have to create a poster.
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        I wouldn't be any help in this specific discussion, because my region isn't participating in the pilot. But because of the pilot, my kids decided to do the poster anyway. They dedicated 25% to sharing their org. structure, 25% for sharing individual contributions [from their roles, to example activities, their background, interests, etc.], 25% for explaining their team name and the last 25% with pictures and examples of teamwork. I noticed a huge difference in their confidence, just by having them work together to develop this poster, for design layout to gluing pictures. They even used in in explained how they choose to tackle the team activity.

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          We are in a state that is piloting the core values poster. I felt that it did help prepare the team members because it gave them a chance to sit back and reflect on the things they have been doing for the past three months while they made the posters. They had to verbalize things to each other, when they worked on the poster and these discussions prepared the group for the judges questions during the regional competition.

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            Re: Core Values Topic

            Originally posted by jenk57 View Post
            We are in a state that is piloting the core values poster. I felt that it did help prepare the team members because it gave them a chance to sit back and reflect on the things they have been doing for the past three months while they made the posters. They had to verbalize things to each other, when they worked on the poster and these discussions prepared the group for the judges questions during the regional competition.
            Jenk, is it required to have a separate tri-fold for core values or can the team combine the project and core values material? My area is not part of the pilot.

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              Re: Core Values Topic

              Originally posted by RvRDilemma View Post
              Jenk, is it required to have a separate tri-fold for core values or can the team combine the project and core values material? My area is not part of the pilot.
              Yes it was required to have a tri-fold (or poster). Here is the full information: http://michiganfll.blogspot.com/2011...uirements.html
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                Oregon just recently announced that they'll be using the Core Values poster activity at the state championships. It wasn't used at the qualifying events (where the teams were presented a problem to solve in real-time while the judges assessed their use of the Core Values). The change wasn't announced until after all the qualifiers were over.
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                  Re: Core Values Topic

                  Originally posted by BlueCheesyFlamingos View Post
                  Yes it was required to have a tri-fold (or poster). Here is the full information: http://michiganfll.blogspot.com/2011...uirements.html
                  Thanks for the link. I did not realize that certain regions had such structured requirements. Although the guidelines are meant to be helpful, I think they're too structured. It's almost like the winner will be the team that uses the structure the most effectively, not who does the best work.

                  My opinion is that the Core Values seems way too structured. For the robot design, I think the guidelines are somewhat helpful/useful.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Core Values Topic

                    Originally posted by RvRDilemma View Post
                    Thanks for the link. I did not realize that certain regions had such structured requirements. Although the guidelines are meant to be helpful, I think they're too structured. It's almost like the winner will be the team that uses the structure the most effectively, not who does the best work.

                    My opinion is that the Core Values seems way too structured. For the robot design, I think the guidelines are somewhat helpful/useful.
                    I posted a very similar comment about them over on another thread.

                    I would much prefer that they gives a rough idea of the topics the judges are interested in hearing and then let the kids figure out how to present everything. The robot presentation especially felt very unnatural as I watched it.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Core Values Topic

                      Originally posted by BlueCheesyFlamingos View Post
                      I posted a very similar comment about them over on another thread.

                      I would much prefer that they gives a rough idea of the topics the judges are interested in hearing and then let the kids figure out how to present everything. The robot presentation especially felt very unnatural as I watched it.
                      Okay, now I'm with you. This is the first I've seen of the formalities. At the national level, there is some mentioned of these requirements, but they don't go into any detail.

                      If the league decides to adopt the pilots, it's going to take a few seasons before most of the community warms up to the idea. I'm sure the idea of having a project along with the robot wasn't popular at first. Then came the teamwork component. I think the league has the right intent. But they must remember that season length varies between regions. It would be tough for a 1st year team to learn design, research, team & season organization and FLL framework in 9-10 weeks. The barrier for new teams joining would be might higher.

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